{"id":1699,"date":"2018-10-26T07:46:25","date_gmt":"2018-10-26T07:46:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/?p=1699"},"modified":"2018-10-26T08:37:18","modified_gmt":"2018-10-26T08:37:18","slug":"review-system76-oryx-pro-laptop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/2018\/10\/26\/review-system76-oryx-pro-laptop\/","title":{"rendered":"Review: System76 Oryx Pro Laptop"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Can &#8220;by hackers, for hackers&#8221; sell laptops? System76 sold an Oryx Pro<br \/>\nto Rob, and he&#8217;s here to tell you about it.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I should start by saying that although I&#8217;m definitely no newbie to<br \/>\nLinux, I&#8217;m new to the world of dedicated Linux laptops. I<br \/>\nstarted with Linux in 1996, when Red Hat 4.0 had just adopted the<br \/>\n2.0 kernel and Debian 1.3 hadn&#8217;t yet been released. I&#8217;ve run a variety<br \/>\nof distros with varying degrees of satisfaction ever since, always<br \/>\nlooking for the Holy Grail of a desktop UNIX that just plain worked.<\/p>\n<p>About 15 years ago after becoming frustrated with the state of Linux<br \/>\non laptop hardware (in a phrase, &#8220;nonexistent hardware support&#8221;), I<br \/>\nswitched my laptops over to Macs and didn&#8217;t look back. It was a<br \/>\ntrue-blue UNIX that just plain worked, and I was happy. But I<br \/>\nincreasingly found myself frustrated by things I expected from Linux<br \/>\nthat weren&#8217;t available on macOS, and which things like Homebrew and MacPorts<br \/>\nand Fink could only partly address.<\/p>\n<p>My last MacBook Pro is now four years old, so it was time to shop<br \/>\naround again. After being underwhelmed by this generation of MacBooks,<br \/>\nI decided to take the risk on a Linux laptop again.<\/p>\n<p>Oh my, an awful lot has changed in 15 years!<\/p>\n<h3>System76<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.system76.com\">System76<\/a> is a Denver-based firm with a<br \/>\n&#8220;by<br \/>\nhackers, for hackers&#8221; ethos. It&#8217;s not the first outfit to have tried to<br \/>\ndeliver on this promise, nor will it be the last. It follows in a long<br \/>\nline pioneered by Red Hat and VA Research, and it will continue in the<br \/>\nfuture with businesses yet to be founded. At this moment in history<br \/>\nthough, System76 seems to be doing a pretty good job of maintaining that<br \/>\nstandard.<\/p>\n<h3>Inquiries<\/h3>\n<p>My initial contact with System76 came by visiting the website and<br \/>\nrequesting a quote for one of its third-generation Oryx Pro models.<br \/>\nThe sales staff were responsive, polite and didn&#8217;t seem to have their<br \/>\npersonalities obliterated into uniform perfection like the Stepford<br \/>\nSalesforce of Lenovo or Dell. I also never caught a whiff of a hard<br \/>\nsell from any of them. On three occasions just before being able to put<br \/>\ndown my hard-earned dinero on an Oryx Pro, my life went sideways, and my<br \/>\nlaptop fund went to pay for strange emergencies that arose out of<br \/>\nnowhere, but the System76 sales staff were cheerfully uncaring about<br \/>\nthis. The impression I got was they believed they knew were going to<br \/>\nmiss a sale right then, but whether they missed it forever depended on<br \/>\nhow they behaved in that instant. It&#8217;s an enlightened view from which more vendors<br \/>\ncould stand to learn.<\/p>\n<h3>Sales<\/h3>\n<p>At last, my laptop fund regenerated, and there were no emergencies on<br \/>\nthe horizon. I visited the System76 site again and discovered in the<br \/>\nintervening months that a new generation of the Oryx Pro had been announced,<br \/>\nand the first 100 pre-orders would receive some nice swag. Judging<br \/>\nfrom the swag I received (mostly a nice-looking promotional poster<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s actually worth framing and putting on your cube wall), I was one<br \/>\nof the first 100. I placed my order May 7, 2018, and was told shipments<br \/>\nwould begin the first week in June.<\/p>\n<p>A couple minor problems arose. The first was that, as tends to happen<br \/>\nwith pre-orders, the new units were not available quite on schedule.<br \/>\nThe second was that System76 wasn&#8217;t proactive about informing me of the<br \/>\ndelays. I was originally cited a delivery date of June 11th, but I<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t receive mine until June 15th. In the grand scheme of things, this<br \/>\nwas a minor issue\u2014I&#8217;ve had far, far worse delays from much bigger<br \/>\nvendors. Still, the fact that it was on me to ask about shipments,<br \/>\ninstead of them telling me there would be a four-day delay was an<br \/>\nunforced error on their part.<\/p>\n<h3>Price<\/h3>\n<p>It&#8217;s sweet hardware, and it&#8217;s priced like sweet hardware. My laptop came<br \/>\nin at $2,704 (including expedited shipping).<\/p>\n<h3>Hardware<\/h3>\n<p>The new fourth-generation Oryx Pro is what was only a year ago called a<br \/>\n&#8220;desktop replacement&#8221;. But that class of computers refers to boat<br \/>\nanchors that were unpleasant to lug around in a messenger bag, not a<br \/>\nslim machine that&#8217;s approaching the dimensions of a MacBook. At 15&#8243;<br \/>\nwide, 10&#8243; high, and 3\/4&#8243; deep, weighing less than 4.5 pounds, it&#8217;s<br \/>\ncloser to an airweight than a boat anchor. (That&#8217;s 38cm by 26cm by 2cm<br \/>\nand just under two kilos, for you nerds out there in civilized countries<br \/>\nthat use proper measurements.) And packed into this form factor is a<br \/>\n4.1GHz i7-8750H with six cores and 12 threads, 32 gigs of<br \/>\nDDR4 RAM at 2400MHz, a half-terabyte NVMe SSD, and\u2014Maestro, cue the<br \/>\ndrumroll\u2014an 8GB NVIDIA GTX 1070 with a 15.6&#8243; 4K HiDPI display. This<br \/>\nthing makes the Mac Retinas look jagged, and that&#8217;s not something I ever<br \/>\nthought I&#8217;d say.<\/p>\n<p>The usual other things round it out. For video, it has HDMI and two<br \/>\nDisplayPort 1.3 outputs, two USB 3.1 Type-C connectors, two USB 3.0<br \/>\nType-A connectors (one of them powered), audio and mike jacks, gigabit<br \/>\nEthernet and 802.11ac WiFi up to 867Mbps. Oh yes, and Bluetooth. On<br \/>\nthe 17&#8243; models, you also can get Thunderbolt 3, but this isn&#8217;t an option<br \/>\non my 15&#8243; model. All of these are pretty much what you should expect on<br \/>\nany modern laptop, really.<\/p>\n<p>The keyboard is what the kids today call a chiclet, but it has absolutely<br \/>\nnothing in common with the chiclet keyboards I remember. People hated<br \/>\nthe IBM PCjr chiclet keyboard, but this one is as comfortable as any<br \/>\nlaptop keyboard I&#8217;ve ever used. The scissor switches are responsive, and<br \/>\nthe keyboard itself is nicely backlit by a rainbow of LED lights. It&#8217;s<br \/>\na very nearly full keyboard too, with a full-size numeric keypad. Some<br \/>\nbuttons are combined with others and accessed via function key-presses,<br \/>\nbut that&#8217;s to be expected. The keyboard gets high marks.<\/p>\n<p>Mouse support is provided via a trackpad with two buttons, which is one<br \/>\nof the very few mis-designs in the hardware. Although two-button mice<br \/>\nare better-understood by casual and business users, a lot of hard-core<br \/>\nLinux hackers like the third mouse button\u2014myself included. The screen<br \/>\nbezel is a little larger than I&#8217;m accustomed to seeing on a modern<br \/>\nlaptop, but if that&#8217;s the price I pay for this crisp 4K HiDPI display, I<br \/>\nconsider that affordable.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s an integrated webcam that works well out of the box with Google<br \/>\nHangouts, Google Meet and Skype. I stopped testing it at that point<br \/>\nand reached for a piece of electrical tape to cover it, and while<br \/>\ncutting off a piece of tape, I realized the final mis-design. In 2018,<br \/>\nwhen we&#8217;re all so keenly aware of our privacy and how malware can hijack<br \/>\na webcam, all vendors should place sliding apertures over their webcams.<br \/>\nGetting video should never just be about turning it on in software.<br \/>\nThere also should be a physical action performed by the user involved\u2014something as simple as sliding away a cover.<\/p>\n<p>Bezel, no third mouse button, no webcam physical aperture\u2014if those are<br \/>\nmy only complaints about the hardware, I think System76 is doing a<br \/>\npretty good job.<\/p>\n<h3>Software<\/h3>\n<p>The Pop!_OS is Ubuntu with a skin job, but it&#8217;s a pretty nice skin.<br \/>\nScratch the surface, and you can find standard GNOME underneath, which is<br \/>\nin my mind a positive thing\u2014all those skills you&#8217;ve developed on other<br \/>\ndistros will transfer over to Pop!_OS nicely. The app store takes<br \/>\nvisual inspiration from Apple&#8217;s, but it could stand some better curation.<br \/>\nClicking on the &#8220;Games&#8221; category gives you a nice list of them, but<br \/>\nthere&#8217;s no facility to read user reviews or choose what kind of games<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re interested in. Although graphically it&#8217;s heads and shoulders<br \/>\nbeyond the package tools of yesteryear, usability-wise it still<br \/>\ncould stand improvement. Given System76 has committed to making Pop!_OS a<br \/>\nfirst-class hacker distro, I suspect the app store experience is pretty<br \/>\nlow on the list of priorities\u2014but really, it would be such an easy<br \/>\nway to distinguish it from Ubuntu and its other derivatives.<\/p>\n<p>My biggest complaint with Pop!_OS is that it&#8217;s almost a dark theme but<br \/>\nisn&#8217;t. &#8220;Dark muddy&#8221; might be a better way to describe the color<br \/>\nscheme.<\/p>\n<p>Still, as mentioned earlier, it&#8217;s all GNOME under the hood, so you can<br \/>\ninstall whatever theme you&#8217;re accustomed to.<\/p>\n<p>As far as development tools, it seems to all be standard Ubuntu 18.04<br \/>\nrepositories, so I won&#8217;t rehash it except to say that it offers what you<br \/>\nexpect: GCC 7.3 and 8.0.1, GNAT, Golang, OpenJDK, Mono and the like.<br \/>\nThe Mono libraries are out of date (4.8, whereas the current is 5.12),<br \/>\nbut that&#8217;s on Ubuntu, not Pop!_OS.<\/p>\n<h3>Sound and Video<\/h3>\n<p>Sound-wise, the Oryx Pro is a little bit of a letdown. There&#8217;s been so<br \/>\nmuch good stuff that describing the speakers as mediocre feels like a<br \/>\ncriticism. They&#8217;re not bad speakers, mind you, they&#8217;re just not going<br \/>\nto impress you much. It&#8217;s a laptop. It&#8217;s really, really hard to put<br \/>\ngood speakers in a laptop. I compromise with a USB headset and<br \/>\neverything&#8217;s great. I&#8217;ve also had fine results with a pair of external<br \/>\nUSB speakers.<\/p>\n<p>Video-wise, the Oryx Pro is a docile little lamb up until it turns into<br \/>\nthe Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man and starts stomping New York flat. It<br \/>\nships with two different video chipsets: one an onboard low-power set by<br \/>\nIntel and the other the aforementioned NVIDIA GTX 1070 with 8GB RAM.<br \/>\nWhen you engage this monster, this machine stops being a laptop. I speak<br \/>\nfrom experience. An hour of it in my lap was enough to leave my left<br \/>\nthigh with first-degree burns. You&#8217;re aware it&#8217;s hot, but you tell<br \/>\nyourself that you can ignore it. Then you shut down an hour later, look<br \/>\nat your leg and wish you hadn&#8217;t ignored it. The price of machismo, I<br \/>\nguess.<\/p>\n<p>The Intel chipset is sufficient for pretty much anything short of<br \/>\nintensive 3D, 4K gaming or mining cryptocurrency. If you want to use<br \/>\nthe HDMI or DisplayPort external jacks, you&#8217;ll need to switch to the<br \/>\nNVIDIA chipset. Switching between chipsets requires a reboot and a<br \/>\nsurprisingly long wait. My suspicion is some firmware is getting flashed<br \/>\nsomewhere. By &#8220;surprisingly long wait&#8221;, I mean that I&#8217;ve seen it take up<br \/>\nto 20 seconds more to reboot on a chipset switch than to reboot<br \/>\nwithout a chipset switch.<\/p>\n<h3>Battery Life<\/h3>\n<p>Power is supplied by a pretty standard brick that ends in the expected<br \/>\nbarrel plug. The trend nowadays is for laptops to be powered by USB-C<br \/>\nor Thunderbolt, but really, I don&#8217;t care much about that. What I care<br \/>\nabout is whether the vendor-supplied power cable is long enough to be<br \/>\nuseful, and there we&#8217;re on good ground. This contributes to the overall<br \/>\nweight, of course, which is why so many vendors are intent on giving you<br \/>\npower cables that aren&#8217;t long enough to let you be more than three feet<br \/>\nfrom a socket. System76 is having none of that: you&#8217;ve got about ten<br \/>\nfeet of distance to work with.<\/p>\n<p>According to System76, the Oryx Pro&#8217;s battery stores 55 watt-hours (~200<br \/>\nkilojoules) of energy. That&#8217;s the good news. The bad news is twofold:<br \/>\none, power draw is significantly higher than I&#8217;d expect, and two, the<br \/>\nonboard battery monitor is completely useless.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been composing this article on my System76 laptop in battery-saver<br \/>\nmode. The screen is at minimum brightness, the graphics are being<br \/>\nprovided by the Intel chipset, and I&#8217;m avoiding anything that&#8217;s<br \/>\nespecially power-hungry. Still, after just 70 minutes, I&#8217;ve dropped from<br \/>\na 98% charge to a 60% charge\u2014assuming I can trust the battery<br \/>\nmonitor, which I really can&#8217;t. 70 minutes ago it told me I had<br \/>\n92 minutes of charge remaining; now it tells me I have two hours<br \/>\nand seven minutes.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever. The GNOME battery applet always has been painfully<br \/>\ninaccurate, in my experience, and that&#8217;s on GNOME, not System76.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what I can tell you: running purely on battery on a power-saving<br \/>\nprofile and reducing my power-hungry apps, I&#8217;ve run this laptop for<br \/>\nthree and a half hours before going dry. That&#8217;s a significant step<br \/>\nbelow what Apple&#8217;s getting with its MacBook line. I hope System76<br \/>\ninvests in improving Linux and GNOME&#8217;s power infrastructure, because we<br \/>\ncan do better than this.<\/p>\n<p>Like other vendors, System76 has done away with the user-swappable<br \/>\nbattery pack. It used to be that if I need more battery life I could<br \/>\ncarry a spare battery, but apparently that ship has sailed.<\/p>\n<p>Are we done with this? Good. Hold on while I find a socket, I&#8217;m going<br \/>\nto go plug this in.<\/p>\n<h3>Support<\/h3>\n<p>Here&#8217;s something that might surprise you: my laptop is defective.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, it&#8217;s defective. That&#8217;s not unheard of in first-shipped units. Every<br \/>\nweek or so, it&#8217;ll spontaneously reboot due to a hardware fault. These<br \/>\nreboots are infrequent enough that it&#8217;s not severely impacting my work,<br \/>\nbut it still needs addressing, and that&#8217;s given me a good opportunity to<br \/>\nexplore System76&#8217;s support offerings.<\/p>\n<p>Let me give the bottom line first: they&#8217;re human beings and they care.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s both good news and bad news. It&#8217;s good news, because human beings<br \/>\nwho care are so much better than all other alternatives that it&#8217;s like<br \/>\ncomparing a supernova to a firecracker. It&#8217;s bad news, because for<br \/>\nthings really to get screwed up, you need the involvement of people who<br \/>\nare so fervently committed to getting things right, they don&#8217;t notice<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re digging the hole deeper.<\/p>\n<p>I reported my first bout of reboots, along with a copy of my system log<br \/>\nfor 30 seconds prior to reboot, via the web page the afternoon of June<br \/>\n20th. A few minutes after noon the next day, System76 had approved a<br \/>\nno-questions-asked return. On June 22, a customer service rep named<br \/>\nAaron told me &#8220;We are shipping your replacement part and will provide<br \/>\nyou with a tracking number as soon as it is available.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Remember how earlier on when shipments were delayed they didn&#8217;t<br \/>\ninform me about it? Yeah, that happened again. On June 26th, I asked<br \/>\nthem, &#8220;Where is this laptop? I&#8217;ve received no tracking information for a<br \/>\nproduct you said was shipping four days ago.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>About an hour later, Emma informed me, &#8220;The replacement laptop will take<br \/>\nsome time to ship, because we are out of stock and awaiting the 4k<br \/>\ndisplay, which is expected to arrive the week of July 10th. We are sorry<br \/>\nfor the delays. We were just notified about the delays and apologize for<br \/>\nthis inconvenience.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>On June 22nd, I was told it was shipping, not &#8220;we will ship it as soon as<br \/>\nnew stock comes in&#8221;, but that it was shipping. Then, after it became clear<br \/>\nthere was a delay in new arrivals, they didn&#8217;t reach out to let me know.<br \/>\nInstead, I found out four days later that I wouldn&#8217;t be receiving my<br \/>\nreplacement for two weeks.<\/p>\n<p>I complained loudly. Carl, the head honcho at System76, responded to me<br \/>\ndirectly and politely. He took responsibility for the error. System76<br \/>\nassures me it has changed the response system so the company no longer<br \/>\nwill be sending &#8220;we are shipping&#8221; notifications ahead of, well, you know,<br \/>\nsystems actually shipping.<\/p>\n<p>Let me make it clear, I believe Carl. I also think Emma and Aaron and<br \/>\neveryone else I&#8217;ve interacted with are good people who genuinely want to<br \/>\ndeliver the best user experience possible. I don&#8217;t think my experience<br \/>\nwith System76 represents its character as a company, except insofar as it<br \/>\nrepresents a company going through growing pains as it adjusts to a<br \/>\nlevel of demand it wasn&#8217;t expecting.<\/p>\n<p>And really, for how sweet this hardware is, I completely understand the<br \/>\ncompany<br \/>\ngetting swamped.<\/p>\n<p>The final question is, &#8220;if I had the $2,704 to spend again, would I be<br \/>\nbetter served with an System76 Oryx Pro, a MacBook Pro or a Dell XPS?&#8221;<br \/>\nAnd on balance, even taking into account the support growing pains, I<br \/>\ncan say without a shadow of doubt, I would give my money to System76 again.<\/p>\n<p>And I&#8217;ll also still be pestering System76 to do better. Because once<br \/>\nthe support infrastructure is cleaned up, believe you me, System76 is<br \/>\ngoing to be giving everybody else in the Linux laptop space a run for<br \/>\ntheir money.<\/p>\n<h3>The Takeaway<\/h3>\n<p>Pluses:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A desktop replacement laptop in a near-MacBook form factor.<\/li>\n<li>i7-8750H with six cores and 12 threads.<\/li>\n<li>Up to 32GB RAM, and a wide variety of HD options including large NVMe SSDs.<\/li>\n<li>55Wh battery, ~3-hour life under real-world conditions.<\/li>\n<li>Pop!_OS is a nice-looking Ubuntu 18.04 derivative.<\/li>\n<li>GTX 1070 and Intel GPUs.<\/li>\n<li>Backlit near-full-size keyboard with numeric keypad.<\/li>\n<li>Lots of USB ports, including two USB-3.1 Type-Cs.<\/li>\n<li>Thunderbolt on the 17&#8243; model.<\/li>\n<li>15&#8243; models offer 4K HiDPI displays, which are amazingly crisp.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Minuses:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Sales and support departments are experiencing growing pains.<\/li>\n<li>No third button on trackpad.<\/li>\n<li>No physical aperture on webcam.<\/li>\n<li>Screen bezel slightly larger than expected.<\/li>\n<li>Laptop gets dangerously hot when the GTX 1070 kicks in.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Recommendations:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>If you&#8217;ve got the money, this is the best thing I&#8217;ve found for<br \/>\ndedicated Linux laptops.<\/li>\n<li>Be patient with System76&#8217;s staff. They&#8217;re having growing pains.<\/li>\n<li>Tell them I sent you.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/lxer.com\/module\/newswire\/ext_link.php?rid=262012\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can &#8220;by hackers, for hackers&#8221; sell laptops? System76 sold an Oryx Pro to Rob, and he&#8217;s here to tell you about it. I should start by saying that although I&#8217;m definitely no newbie to Linux, I&#8217;m new to the world of dedicated Linux laptops. I started with Linux in 1996, when Red Hat 4.0 had &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/2018\/10\/26\/review-system76-oryx-pro-laptop\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Review: System76 Oryx Pro Laptop&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1699","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-linux"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1699","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1699"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1699\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1748,"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1699\/revisions\/1748"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1699"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1699"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.appservgrid.com\/paw92\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1699"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}